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the state polls, the battle ground state polls suggest and indicate that president obama is ahead in nearly all of them but the national polls have a tie. it is striking to see this difference. it is sobering if you are a romney supporter to think he is trailing or tied in so many of the states. could the polls be wrong? they could. whether they are, we are wait dog find out. >>chris: you have been traveling the country if weeks and months, jeff, your sense of where this stands 48 hours out? >> much different in battle ground states because of the advertising. people in ohio and people in iowa, florida, and virginia, have a different sense of the race. the reason pennsylvania is in play because there has not been a lot of advertising. in the battleground states and i was in ohio and wisconsin and iowa and what you pick up, there is a real sense of enthusiasm for the romney campaign. i did not run into one republican party who is not happy about electing mitt romney opposed to someone to beat president obama. that is a significant change. on other side, the excitement and enthusiasm i
the state polls, the battle ground state polls suggest and indicate that president obama is ahead in nearly all of them but the national polls have a tie. it is striking to see this difference. it is sobering if you are a romney supporter to think he is trailing or tied in so many of the states. could the polls be wrong? they could. whether they are, we are wait dog find out. >>chris: you have been traveling the country if weeks and months, jeff, your sense of where this stands 48 hours...
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new washington post poll out showing president obama at 51. governor romney at 47%. this is a race that has a similar situation in ohio. your economy is doing better than the national economy is, and this has been a tough row for him to hoe. what does mitt romney have to do if he can get into the state after the storm to turn this around? >> well, first i do want to thank governor romney who called me yesterday and agreed to cancel three events in virginia today to allow our first responders to focus on that. i appreciate it. the president is doing the same thing tomorrow. you mentioned the post poll. there are two other polls, both rasmussen and fox, that have romney up by two. it's margin of error. it's close, and it's going to come down to turn out the last undecided voters. i think why romney will win virginia is because he is the one that's going to reverse these sequestration cuts. they're going to devastate the military and cost us $200,000 jobs. the president has been a bystander and won't do that. he is the one with the plan to create jobs and we've got 23 m
new washington post poll out showing president obama at 51. governor romney at 47%. this is a race that has a similar situation in ohio. your economy is doing better than the national economy is, and this has been a tough row for him to hoe. what does mitt romney have to do if he can get into the state after the storm to turn this around? >> well, first i do want to thank governor romney who called me yesterday and agreed to cancel three events in virginia today to allow our first...
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the difference and margin this polls or obama is going to win. do you have any feelings about that. >> we are under such an avalanche of polling data now like we have never seen before, you can construct a quite plausible scenario for any of the three possibilities you mentioned and probably a couple of others. i think the conventional wisdom is trending towards and obama win, something along the lines of what karl rove and his team pulled off for president bush in 2004. but, i'm by no means certain and there is a striking discrepancy between national polls which tend to be done by and large by older, more seasoned polling firms and state polls, a number of which are done by less established firms, the national polls have it as a tie and the state polls, as it suggested, battle ground state polls, suggest and indicate that president obama is ahead in nearly all of them. it is -- seems striking that there would be this difference. and we don't know. but, it is sobering, if you are a romney supporter to think he is trailing or, just tied, in so man
the difference and margin this polls or obama is going to win. do you have any feelings about that. >> we are under such an avalanche of polling data now like we have never seen before, you can construct a quite plausible scenario for any of the three possibilities you mentioned and probably a couple of others. i think the conventional wisdom is trending towards and obama win, something along the lines of what karl rove and his team pulled off for president bush in 2004. but, i'm by no...
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. >> a national poll showing romney's national favorability at 53%, just shy of obama at 54%, there used to be a much greater gap there, are we saying that turn decideds are certainly playing a role in a big way here? >> yes, i think that usually, in most polling experts, most of the political experts who have studied this over the years, if you're undecided at this late stage, you have a tendency numb necessarily huge numbers, but in bigger numbers for the challanger as opposed to the incumbent. you've known the incumbent for four years, you've gotten used to it, you know what to expect. the challenger, if you're still undecided, there's a tendency to break for the challenger. >> do we think this election really will be this close? >> yes, i think it will be this close. i'm going to be anchoring our coverage, as you know, tuesday night, so i'm getting ready for a long night. four years ago at 11:00 p.m. on the east coast when the polls closed on the west coast, california, oregon, washington state, hawaii, we projected a winner of 270-plus electoral college votes for barack obama. i don
. >> a national poll showing romney's national favorability at 53%, just shy of obama at 54%, there used to be a much greater gap there, are we saying that turn decideds are certainly playing a role in a big way here? >> yes, i think that usually, in most polling experts, most of the political experts who have studied this over the years, if you're undecided at this late stage, you have a tendency numb necessarily huge numbers, but in bigger numbers for the challanger as opposed to...
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obama only got to 13%. they're even in the polls. aapparently they're even even in get out the vote effort. they're down to wire. no indication it will change in five days. >> dana: carl, thank you. we'll go to ed henry, with president obama in las vegas. ed, we have a new nickname for you coined by greg gutfeld. we thought you desevened one. election ed. take it away. >> reporter: i like it. that's great. just like campaign carl. bottom line, they are promising a new message for the president today. it will be more positive, less of the negative tone, ripping to mitt romney. this is his final case to what he did in wisconsin today, talking about what he would do in a second term. laying out that he wants to finish the change he talked about in the last four years. he did go negative on romney. not giving it up. he said romney claiming to be an agent of change and he knocked millions of people off the health insurance. he would go backward on wall street reform. obama landed in nevada now. he has three stops in wisconsin. six in ohio
obama only got to 13%. they're even in the polls. aapparently they're even even in get out the vote effort. they're down to wire. no indication it will change in five days. >> dana: carl, thank you. we'll go to ed henry, with president obama in las vegas. ed, we have a new nickname for you coined by greg gutfeld. we thought you desevened one. election ed. take it away. >> reporter: i like it. that's great. just like campaign carl. bottom line, they are promising a new message for...
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maybe not getting to the polls. >> i think i gave president obama 313. i have been going back and forth between 303 and 313. i'm still worried about some clearly. north carolina. the other thing in order for mitt romney to win, he has to have a large turnout on tuesday and 6 out of 10 voting to spot him just to overcome the huge numbers that president obama has wracked up. i believe that president obama will eke it out bare ly. >> it's going be a tight race. very quickly 20shgs seconds left. anybody see republicans taking control of the senate. >> no. >> i think they pick up two seats or one depending on how the caucus is. >> the 26th presidential race starts wednesday. >>> for all of you at home go to abcnews.com/thisweek to submit your predictions. >>> and now, we honor our fellow americans who serve and sacrifice. this week the pentagon released the names of twoselves members killed in afghanistan. >>> and we'll be right back with a look ahead to "this week." [ male announcer ] you're not the type of person who sets goals and only hopes to achieve the
maybe not getting to the polls. >> i think i gave president obama 313. i have been going back and forth between 303 and 313. i'm still worried about some clearly. north carolina. the other thing in order for mitt romney to win, he has to have a large turnout on tuesday and 6 out of 10 voting to spot him just to overcome the huge numbers that president obama has wracked up. i believe that president obama will eke it out bare ly. >> it's going be a tight race. very quickly 20shgs...
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in ohio, that same poll shows president obama also up only 2 but two percentage points. 47% to 45%. in wisconsin where the president started his post-hurricane campaign today an abc news "wall street journal" maris poll has him up 49 to 46%. but governor romney is leading in colorado which is another state president obama visited today. the lead there is just one point, 47% to 46%. that's according to reuters ipso. back with us our three political junkies extraordinaire. pollster david herman, joe garifoli. from all of the polls, there were 29 polls that came out. you are the pollster. this momentum, is it baked in? >> the advantage obama has is baked in inn a lot of the states. i would be shocked to see romney take ohio. and if he can't take ohio, it is really hard to see what his path is. >> jennifer: virginia? >> i think obama takes virginia as well and i think he does it thanks to latino and asian voters. >> jennifer: interesting. he takes iowa. >> i think he takes iowa. >> and wisconsin. >> and wisconsin. >> and nevada. [ laughter ] >> those are all close. every one of those is
in ohio, that same poll shows president obama also up only 2 but two percentage points. 47% to 45%. in wisconsin where the president started his post-hurricane campaign today an abc news "wall street journal" maris poll has him up 49 to 46%. but governor romney is leading in colorado which is another state president obama visited today. the lead there is just one point, 47% to 46%. that's according to reuters ipso. back with us our three political junkies extraordinaire. pollster...
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it showed barack obama as a commander in chief. the gallup poll was knocked off. it was his best poll. it showed the two competing businesses. not only did you have chris christie out there, but you also have bob mcdonnell of west virginia, another republican surrogate, who said the obama administration's response has been incredibly fast. >> i wouldn't go that far. they came in separately and they left separately. but sometimes governors have to do what governors do and presidents have to do what presidents do. i get that. and i think for the moment, your man probably got some. john, i want to ask you, i've been reading in the newspapers -- you correct me if i'm wrong. your superpack and other republican super packs have put $4 million into pennsylvania. team obama, only $625,000. for $4 million, jonathan, you want a rate of return better than a utility executive. you want to actually win the race in that state. >> we wouldn't be spending the money if we didn't think that there were real opportunities in michigan, pennsylvania, and minnesota, as well as wisconsin
it showed barack obama as a commander in chief. the gallup poll was knocked off. it was his best poll. it showed the two competing businesses. not only did you have chris christie out there, but you also have bob mcdonnell of west virginia, another republican surrogate, who said the obama administration's response has been incredibly fast. >> i wouldn't go that far. they came in separately and they left separately. but sometimes governors have to do what governors do and presidents have...
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other hand, polls show obama ahead and 50%. the campaigns have an investment there and they don't take the evidence of a strong race and inclined to think although minnesota is closer than people think it's probably not going romney's way. >> nate, let's talk about ohio. the sort of premier swing state. you have made the point of a state filled with white working class voters and elsewhere turned on obama in four years and if they had in ohio like they have elsewhere this would be a pretty easy romney feat and obama's ahead by a few points and been a consistent leap. i want to run a number that jumped out at me from the cbs/"the new york times" poll. in this poll, they asked ohio, florida and virginia voters do you think things in your state, the economic conditions in your state are getting better, worse or staying the same? you look at florida, 37-25 better. virginia 39-19 better. ohio, you have the unemployment rate lower than the national average. 52% better, 17% worse. pretty big difference there. is this just a case where
other hand, polls show obama ahead and 50%. the campaigns have an investment there and they don't take the evidence of a strong race and inclined to think although minnesota is closer than people think it's probably not going romney's way. >> nate, let's talk about ohio. the sort of premier swing state. you have made the point of a state filled with white working class voters and elsewhere turned on obama in four years and if they had in ohio like they have elsewhere this would be a...
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obama's campaign spends a billion. romney campaign spends a billion. >> concentrated spending. >> $5 billion over five white women in ohio. that's right. but, it has been very helpful to the tv stations. >> and 67 superpacs have sprung over the last 30 days. it's not making a difference. >> it could make a difference in the senate and the house races. >> and the reality is, you're going to see a lot of republicans come out and you're going to see enormous racial polarization in this race. 40% of white vote, in your poll this morning, 38 and 78. right on the tipping point. >> but, ron, i want to bring that question to matthew dowd. when you look at it and you see how sophisticated each side is, how much money they both had, are we into an era now where almost every presidential election is going to be this close? >> well, if you take a look at 3 of the last 4, they have been within two or three points. the other thing that happens, 35 years ago, 80% of the people lived in the target states that people concentrate on in
obama's campaign spends a billion. romney campaign spends a billion. >> concentrated spending. >> $5 billion over five white women in ohio. that's right. but, it has been very helpful to the tv stations. >> and 67 superpacs have sprung over the last 30 days. it's not making a difference. >> it could make a difference in the senate and the house races. >> and the reality is, you're going to see a lot of republicans come out and you're going to see enormous racial...
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the latest nbc news "wall street journal" m.arist poll shows president obama holding on a six-point lead among likely voters in the buckeye state. meanwhile in florida an creamily tight race there two points separating the candidates with the president ahead in the sunshine states 49 to 47%. so much of this race, of course, depends on these two states. ohio and florida. for some insight i want to bring in our nbc news deputy political editor. let's start with ohio good friend. if mitt romney can't win in ohio what would his path to 270, what would his path to victory have to look like. >> makes it very narrow for mitt romney. if president obama wins ohio he's at 261 electoral votes based on our battleground map. if mitt romney gets virginia and florida he's stuck to 248. new hampshire where he owns a home but the president probably a finger on the scale now we're at 261-261 and we've been talking all along about the midwest and importance of ohio, wisconsin and iowa and the necessity for mitt romney to win two of those three. look at that right there. you got those 16 electoral votes bet
the latest nbc news "wall street journal" m.arist poll shows president obama holding on a six-point lead among likely voters in the buckeye state. meanwhile in florida an creamily tight race there two points separating the candidates with the president ahead in the sunshine states 49 to 47%. so much of this race, of course, depends on these two states. ohio and florida. for some insight i want to bring in our nbc news deputy political editor. let's start with ohio good friend. if mitt...
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the latest ohio poll shows romney trailing president obama badly on whether the candidate cares about the needs of people like you. president obama also leads on who is better at helping the middle class. president obama also leads romney by five points in ohio, in large part because romney's 47% problems just continue to haunt him. it is halloween, isn't it? let's bring in msnbc contributor, e.j. dionne, who is also a "washington post" columnist and author of the book, "our divided political heart." you know, this storm, as devastating as it is, e.j., it seems to have created some real problems for the romney campaign. it's almost as if you see them, and they are thing, and you can see them thinking out loud, oh, no, now what do we do? staging events. i mean, how low does it get? your thoughts? >> well, first of all, i would like to send my love out to my wife's family in rockaway queens, the neighborhood right on the ocean that got hammered. it's a great area and those folks are having a tough time right now. and i think this storm presented romneys with a slew of problems, and that
the latest ohio poll shows romney trailing president obama badly on whether the candidate cares about the needs of people like you. president obama also leads on who is better at helping the middle class. president obama also leads romney by five points in ohio, in large part because romney's 47% problems just continue to haunt him. it is halloween, isn't it? let's bring in msnbc contributor, e.j. dionne, who is also a "washington post" columnist and author of the book, "our...
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this is the first time in our polling that we've seen romney with a double digit lead over obama. that would be a huge turn arn if the numbers held, a 20-point net turn around from the election in 2008. >> paul: okay, if that's true, and i agree with you the polls are showing that movement of independents to romney, if that's right and a big switch from 2008, why doesn't romney have a more comfortable lead at least 2 or 3 points in these polls? >> 90% of the disagreement in the polls right now, paul, involves differing assumptions about the makeup of the electorate. if we have an electorate that looks like 2004, with equal numbers of democrats and republicans turning out, then a double digit lead for romney among independents means he wins comfortably. >> paul: right. >> on the other hand if we have an electorate that looks like 2008 with 7 percentage points more democrats than republicans in the electorate, then that's probably enough to save obama, even if he loses independents by a dozen points. >> well, where-- >> it's all in the makeup. >> paul: where do you think the recogni
this is the first time in our polling that we've seen romney with a double digit lead over obama. that would be a huge turn arn if the numbers held, a 20-point net turn around from the election in 2008. >> paul: okay, if that's true, and i agree with you the polls are showing that movement of independents to romney, if that's right and a big switch from 2008, why doesn't romney have a more comfortable lead at least 2 or 3 points in these polls? >> 90% of the disagreement in the...
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face it, president obama has had the best success at changing the polling. when he goes negative. when his negative ads about romney for bain capital. >> kimberly: that's when he was ahead. >> eric: he was a murderer. that's when he gets movem. he can't do that now. you have can't go negative now. >> bob: are you suggesting that romney hasn't attacked obama negatively? one thing we should point out today the independent committee for both sides went over billion in spending. that means you have $3 billion spent on the presidential race. unbelievable. >> kimberly: it is unbelievable. where is it getting them in the end? >> dana: the npr poll that came out today has the two candidates at 49/48. the interesting thing about the poll, i thought, bob, i don't know if you had a chance to look at it there with auz an eight-point swing for romney in the poll from npr. >> kimberly: the important point is obama is losing ground since the piv the first debate where people got a chance to see who romney is and what he stands for. that is true. >> bob: made progress but it's been frozen. >> dan
face it, president obama has had the best success at changing the polling. when he goes negative. when his negative ads about romney for bain capital. >> kimberly: that's when he was ahead. >> eric: he was a murderer. that's when he gets movem. he can't do that now. you have can't go negative now. >> bob: are you suggesting that romney hasn't attacked obama negatively? one thing we should point out today the independent committee for both sides went over billion in spending....
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so another ppp poll just posted and a wisconsin poll shows barack obama leading mitt romney 51% to 46%, a five-point lead. we certainly have seen that in the midwest states. the breaking news -- to recap, if mitt romney wins either minnesota, michigan, or pennsylvania, come on "morning joe" and shave it. you can shave it. i'm not going to touch it. and if barack obama wins florida or north carolina, i will grow on "morning joe." >> ever had a mustache? >> i will get a guitar out and i will sing. >> have you ever had a mustache? >> no. >> and what happens in my mind right now -- >> we can glue david's mustache on your face. >> okay. >> david axelrod, it's been disgusting. >> it's grow your own. >> i'll talk to you later. thanks. up next -- >> thank you, david. >> patricia cornwell joins us. keep it here on "morning joe." or that printing in color had to cost a fortune. nobody said an all-in-one had to be bulky. or that you had to print from your desk. at least, nobody said it to us. introducing the business smart inkjet all-in-one series from brother. easy to use, it's the ultimate comb
so another ppp poll just posted and a wisconsin poll shows barack obama leading mitt romney 51% to 46%, a five-point lead. we certainly have seen that in the midwest states. the breaking news -- to recap, if mitt romney wins either minnesota, michigan, or pennsylvania, come on "morning joe" and shave it. you can shave it. i'm not going to touch it. and if barack obama wins florida or north carolina, i will grow on "morning joe." >> ever had a mustache? >> i will...
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what we've seen in the polls is president obama having a small but steady lead. mitt romney has been unable to kind of reverse that momentum here in ohio. a couple different reasons. take a look at poll. president obama big lead with women. governor romney, big lead with men. governor romney has a two-point edge with independent voters in our poll, but president obama has an almost 20-point lead with self-described moderate voters. >> that's interesting that there's a distinction those two. >> a very important distinction and hasn't happened in political history. the taeea party moving to the right. we're just in the toledo where the jeep plant s.unemployment was 13% in that city when president obama took office. now it's at 7% rate. manufacturing, the middle class, these are the sweet spots of a democratic pitch, and they have been able to say that mitt romney, a state where the bain ads, have had an effect would not be a good stewart that have reinvestment. president obama's core argument here is economic and it's also saying, look, the policies that mitt romne
what we've seen in the polls is president obama having a small but steady lead. mitt romney has been unable to kind of reverse that momentum here in ohio. a couple different reasons. take a look at poll. president obama big lead with women. governor romney, big lead with men. governor romney has a two-point edge with independent voters in our poll, but president obama has an almost 20-point lead with self-described moderate voters. >> that's interesting that there's a distinction those...
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we'll see the polls close. we are entering those hours now for his own take is anchor of special report bret baier. >> we are all working together as we move ahead for tuesday. >> hard to believe that we are finally here. >> we don't see surprises coming from the president and the stump speeches. but something from president obama is really getting a lot of reaction in the last 24 hours . people are wondering if it was written or ad-lib. >> at the time the republican congress and senate candidate by the name of romney. no, no. no. don't boo, vote. vote. vote is the best revenge. >> the president said something you may have heard by now that surprised a lot of people. voting is the best revenge. he told supporters voting for revenge. vote for revenge? let me actul what i would like to tell you. vote for love of country. >> and now obviously you are already seeing response from governor romney. he responded again. what did the president mean for the revenge line. >> he was responding to commercials that are run i
we'll see the polls close. we are entering those hours now for his own take is anchor of special report bret baier. >> we are all working together as we move ahead for tuesday. >> hard to believe that we are finally here. >> we don't see surprises coming from the president and the stump speeches. but something from president obama is really getting a lot of reaction in the last 24 hours . people are wondering if it was written or ad-lib. >> at the time the republican...
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polls. i think right now there was clearly a trend towards mitt romney after the first debate, that looks like it has stalled out, where most of us thought a year ago, we would have said this is going to be a close race. it's pretty much the floor for any republican, and now we're seeing mitt romney at 48 to 49%, and that makes sense to me. you start looking around the states, and the president is in pretty darn good position. >> bill: right. the emphasis to me -- they keep talking about the national polls because they have to have a horse race right? >> right. >> bill: but we do not -- people have to understand we do not elect a president by a national vote. >> that's right. >> bill: it's state by state by state. >> so if you run the store up in texas. it doesn't matter. if you win by 50% or 60%, it doesn't matter. >> bill: that's right. the new york times this morning, i think maybe one of the few that you can really trust. their count of the electoral map right now is 243 obama, 206 romne
polls. i think right now there was clearly a trend towards mitt romney after the first debate, that looks like it has stalled out, where most of us thought a year ago, we would have said this is going to be a close race. it's pretty much the floor for any republican, and now we're seeing mitt romney at 48 to 49%, and that makes sense to me. you start looking around the states, and the president is in pretty darn good position. >> bill: right. the emphasis to me -- they keep talking about...
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tonight president obama is ahead in the polls. but romney has for rowed the lead in the last couple of months. today wisconsin become a hot campaign spot for both candidates. vice president biden talked to the voters at the red mug coffee shop in superior wisconsin, but he got upstaged in milwaukee. pop star katy perry performed some of her hit songs at the crowded rally before president obama spoke. she asked everybody there to donate to the red cross. she made this offer to encourage people to vote. >> if you're over 18, and you've got some real cool outfit you're going to wear on tuesday, you tweet that to me and i'll retweet you. all right? because i'm going to pull out one for sure, as well. >> president obama didn't talk fashion. >> wisconsin, after four years as president, you know me. and so -- so, you know -- you know me. you've watched me age before your eyes. and you may not agree with every decision i've made. sometimes you may have been frustrated by the pace of change, but you know where i stand. you know what i beli
tonight president obama is ahead in the polls. but romney has for rowed the lead in the last couple of months. today wisconsin become a hot campaign spot for both candidates. vice president biden talked to the voters at the red mug coffee shop in superior wisconsin, but he got upstaged in milwaukee. pop star katy perry performed some of her hit songs at the crowded rally before president obama spoke. she asked everybody there to donate to the red cross. she made this offer to encourage people...
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a poll has president obama up five points in that state and two new nbc news polls have the president leading by six points in ohio and two in florida. the polls in these key states relatively stable over the last few weeks. it seems there's little persuading left to do. both sides agree on what is going to decide the campaign. that's turnout. they touted his party's get out to vote. >> we are far ahead of where we were in 2008. we are going to be -- you know, our ground game is better than their ground game. we are going to do more voter contacts this year than all of 2008 and all of 2004 combined. we have an army on the ground. >> democrats for their part have invested in a robust, cutting edge program in swing states. joe biden said at a meeting on thursday is what's going to put president obama over the top. >> hey, you know, you know why we're going to win? because of you all. no, i'm serious. i generally mean it. you know, the thing is -- the difference in this election, once again is the ground game. because of you and iowa, ohio, wisconsin, colorado, north carolina, we have th
a poll has president obama up five points in that state and two new nbc news polls have the president leading by six points in ohio and two in florida. the polls in these key states relatively stable over the last few weeks. it seems there's little persuading left to do. both sides agree on what is going to decide the campaign. that's turnout. they touted his party's get out to vote. >> we are far ahead of where we were in 2008. we are going to be -- you know, our ground game is better...
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not every poll has obama winning in ohio. >> first if you look at the whole group of polls we have a two-point romney lead to a five or six-point obama lead, the average is going to do better a than any one poll individual think, polling is difficult now, because you can only get about ten percent of people on the money, polls are hoping that those people who they do get are representative of the ones whom they don't get, different views about who will turn out and who won't, about the, differ on the democrat grafnls and statistical uncertainty as well. >> depending on the model the poll uses will affect the result. >> a different hype these almost. >> .. if you assume a more vigorous turnout because obama has good ground game for example those have him winning, no more at that like opportunity thousand ten environment where republican enthusiasm prevail they have a very tight in ohio instead. >> rose: okay. but do you say when you look at all of these polls, i have noted you are a statistician, you noted in the polling you measure other polls? >> rightment. >> rose: do you measure t
not every poll has obama winning in ohio. >> first if you look at the whole group of polls we have a two-point romney lead to a five or six-point obama lead, the average is going to do better a than any one poll individual think, polling is difficult now, because you can only get about ten percent of people on the money, polls are hoping that those people who they do get are representative of the ones whom they don't get, different views about who will turn out and who won't, about the,...